With pressure mounting and fan anger slowly turning into disinterest, did Marti Cifuentes deliver on his promise to change things and bring more academy players in, or was this team assembled by dice rolls and names from a hat?

Ben Nelson got his first start of the season in a shuffled backline, Luke Thomas and Caleb Okoli deployed as the fullbacks. Jannik Vestergaard took over the captain’s armband to offer a steady, senior head alongside Nelson.

Oliver Skipp came in for Boubakary Soumare and thankfully Jordan James overcame his back injury that saw him substituted against Blackburn. Striker roulette favoured Julian Carranza again, for reasons unknown to the crowd.

Jordan Ayew was this week’s left winger, it’s hard to tell if it was a tactical move or just to counter potential tired legs. Or was Marti just disappointed with Mavididi’s end product? It wasn’t quite the chaos line-up that was rumoured pre-match but it didn’t scream goals and creative output either. In a show of unity and togetherness, there was an all hands in huddle before kick off.

If any neutrals opted to watch this instead of the other Championship offerings or the Champions League, commiserations to them. Hopefully somebody woke them up and reminded them other sporting events were available. Or anything, really. The King Power crowd certainly had a ‘here in body, mind elsewhere’ vibe. It was a strange atmosphere.

The rendition of the Last Post and the Poppy Tifo was well observed but the crowd had been pretty sparse until kick off and even then the empty seats were still noticeable. A lot of people appeared to have opted out of a rainy evening at the King Power, maybe Bonfire Night plans seemed more appealing. Those inside didn’t turn to toxic venom from minute one, which was a little surprising given how Saturday concluded.

The play certainly wasn’t the reason the crowd were calmer, we didn’t start more positively than any other game recently. But at times you could have heard a pin drop. Chants didn’t really catch off and the first half was dominated for a time by concern for a fan taken ill in the family stand. The rest of the game had a lot of people trying their hand at turning their Tifo paper into paper airplanes, the game just playing out as a back drop.

It all felt a little passive. Which is largely what Leicester City players were serving up on the pitch too. Middlesbrough didn’t fare much better but at times, it was hard to tell who was supposed to be the home team. The penalty that the away side gifted us in the dying stages of the first half was not deserved, but it felt like something we so desperately needed that nobody cared. Maybe the much needed win was possible, the performance wasn’t good but it would be something to build on.

Anybody who watched the Wrexham game, the Portsmouth game or the Blackburn game, knew what was coming in the second half though. Leicester were slow, passive in their approach.

We got our first outing of Asmir Begovic, with Stolarczyk injured in the first half. He made a great save when Vestergaard had a nightmare of a moment but then found himself in no man’s land for the equaliser.

As Luke Ayling headed the ball in the 96th minute (of 5 minutes added time), everything played out in slow motion. It felt like hours watching the ball sail into the net before the Boro players wheeled off in emphatic celebration, the small away end rightly enjoying the last minute equaliser.

Nothing about it felt surprising, players wandering around, not putting in a foot, the same defensive issues and having tried to hang on to a 1-0 lead. Something that’s not felt comfortable all season.

Benny steps up

Pre-season, a lot of hope was put into the Ben Nelson bucket. After his promising loan at Oxford last year, getting some valuable Championship experience, we all hoped he’d be a regular at centre back this season. His lack of involvement once fit was surprising and yet again seemed to contradict the cry of wanting to use the academy players.

On a night where there were so few positives, perhaps starting with one is naive but Nelson was great. As much as it’s a positive, it feels like a ‘here’s what you could have had for multiple games before this!’ moment, which is pretty damning for Cifuentes. He’s not explained why Nelson’s time has been limited to date.

Nelson should keep his spot on Saturday. His partnership next to Vestergaard felt more solid than anything else we’ve seen so far. Vestergaard may divide opinions but at this level he is one of our more competent defenders, even with the risk of his oil-tanker speed turns and some of his mistakes.

Both have a calmness on the ball and in possession. Nelson likely needs that more senior figure alongside him for at least another season while he grows. Wout Faes would add an additional level of chaos that one team can’t sustain if you’re also going to play Okoli at right-back. Okoli could be a partner to Nelson long-term but it feels risky for right now.

Okoli didn’t look comfortable for portions of the game. One particularly risky back pass almost eluded Jakub Stolarczyk. You could also hold him accountable for marking, or not, Ayling for the equaliser. Some of the other players were reluctant to include him in the passing game, limiting his ability to effectively impact the right wing in attack. Not that we had much attacking prowess throughout.

Attack? What attack

Carranza won this game’s lottery of which striker to play that definitely won’t score. Despite how ineffective he was against Blackburn as well. It’s tough to know what he’s serving up in training because we’re not really seeing anything during matches. His anticipation and movement aren’t great, he doesn’t look adept at holding the ball up or setting up his colleagues and he’s shot shy.

Several occasions where he just needed to pull the trigger or turn and he backed away from it, trying to pass or just finding himself on the floor. We’ve long said that Patson Daka looks stronger in a two, perhaps Carranza is the same. But when he drifts outside of the box, there weren’t many bodies stepping in to take over and fill that void. Players who did venture forward and look to cross had no real targets.

We’ve been reliant on moments of brilliance from the likes of Fatawu. He’s struggled in recent games, a combination of trying too hard and also the opposition knowing exactly what he’s going to do. James tries to help him and there’s something between them that could work if they had others on the pitch who could support and make runs. Jordan Ayew on the wing was about as impactful as you’d expect, no speed, occasional free-kicks and sometimes drifting in.

Leicester had six shots total, just two on target. Our xG in the second half was 0.03. the total across the game was only 1.47 and the penalty accounts for about 0.79. For a home side, we only managed 37% possession and what we did when we did have the ball never felt like it had momentum, so many sideways or backwards passes.

From SK1, you could see how deep we were sat up for large portions of the game. We were slow on the ball, indecisive. Several times we watched players stand on the ball ignoring the likes of James or Fatawu stood in space, only to pass to a defender.

If there’s any discourse about us being close to a win and that counting as positive progress, these stats and the lack of shots to test Brynn dispel that myth.

Passive passengers

What’s that red, flashing alarm sound? It’s our performances looking somehow worse with each game. There’s no sense of improvement or taking positive steps. You could argue that defensively we were slightly more solid but when you’re undone so late into a game, it doesn’t really matter. There’s a lack of conviction to see anything through.

The bright sparks were so few and far between, Nelson was great but was never going to contribute to the attacking problem. James continued to work really hard, making runs his teammates didn’t pick up on and trying to thread through passes. It’s hard not to bemoan the Ramsey injury, his runs feel like a missing part. Alongside a striker who can bring something to the team. Daka’s substitution didn’t change the vibe.

The problems weren’t just the lack of attack but also how we managed the game. Players like Skipp felt like passengers, offering next to nothing. In the dying throes of the game we had players walking, not running to get to their man or the ball. Players trying to play it into the corner to immediately be dispossessed. Set pieces that didn’t clear the first man. And to be getting in trouble for time wasting at home is embarrassing. Begovic punished for holding onto the ball for more than 8 seconds.

The sense of panic that it would be so very Leicester to concede a corner from that moment was actually just a prelude to the even bigger banter moment. Conceding with basically the last meaningful kick of the game to ten men.

There’s a whole heap of memes you could insert here. A lot of our players appeared to be enacting several of them. The moment of toxic anger came but even then it felt half hearted, a portion of the crowd had already departed which limited the boos. This was one of the lowest league attendances for a while too, fan malaise growing.

A win was much needed and while we were just one or two kicks away from one, it wouldn’t have been a deserved win. It would have felt like papering over the enormous cracks. Though for the players like Nelson, James and Fatawu who continue to try to do something, the confidence boost wouldn’t have hurt them.

There’s just one match left before the next international break and it’s impossible not to look at Cifuentes’ position. The players, the squad are a huge problem but if he cannot find the right selection amongst them, or the right words to get them doing something, anything, he’s as ineffective as they are. Patience is wearing thin for what he says versus what we’re seeing.

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23 responses to “Leicester City 1 Middlesbrough 1: Paper planes and passive play”

  1. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
    jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

    I’m sorry, but that was a depressing review and I wonder why you are going to Leicester matches, when you obviously dislike them so much. It’s true that we got the draw that our play deserved but the match WAS entertaining. We tried hard to hold onto our lead and the players put a lot of effort in to do that. They tired and they paid for it but they DID put effort in. You seem, like so many fans, to think we deserve to win matches – our players are mostly below average and well below average in attack. Stop looking at how much Rudkin got ripped off for them and look at the talent they exhibit week in week out for a long time. I enjoyed the match and was on the edge of my seat wondering if we could hold out or sneak a second. That’s what I want from a match – we don’t have Vardy and Kanté any longer and we are not a top tier team. The continual attacks on Cifuentes are ridiculous. We need some stability at the manager and coaching position, even if he isn’t “insert this week’s superstar coach” otherwise we will never get out of the trough we are in. Very happy to see Nelson have a good game (and Luke, who you seem not to mention unless he has a bad week), hopefully this gives Cifuentes the push to include more youngsters when they are back from international duty. As for attacker – we don’t have one, so giving Carranza a run of matches is the best idea. Daka & ayew have proven they are not worth continuing with. It’s the position that Cifuentes needs most help with in January and Rudkin has known this for about 5 years now. Please stop sounding like a Foxestalk poster and fair weather fan and enjoy the few moments that you can watching us play or stop, have a break and do something else with your time.

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    1. Obviously it’s each to their own, but quite how you can call watching your team, at home, against 10 men, labouring (and ultimately failing) to hold on to a lead they didn’t deserve after creating absolutely zero decent chances ‘entertaining’ is beyond me. But fair play to you – you’re probably much less stressed than I am!

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      1. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
        jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

        Weren’t you gripped with tension as Boro had wave after wave of attack which we rebuffed successfully until the very end of the match? We are and have been poor going forward for a long time, but last night we were resilient at the back, which we have rarely been for years. I was entertained. I wasn’t thrilled with our play but I “enjoyed” watching my team fight to hold onto their lead. Each person watches football/Leicester for their own reasons, but if you expect this team to play “good”, “exciting” attacking football and win matches then it’s probably time to take a break, renew your batteries and come back next season (or later).

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      2. You’re taking the mick, right? That’s not me being facetious, I genuinely cannot tell. But if you’ve really managed to pull off the mental gymnastics required to find watching the other team attacking entertaining, fair play to you! I bet you found watching us under Levein entertaining too? 😀

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      3. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
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        Obviously we have a different idea of being entertained. You didn’t answer my question? Why have you been watching Leicester for the last few years? We were dire last year, we were pretty poor when relegated the time before last. Even “Enzo’s year” was pretty boring for long periods of time. So why are you watching them if you are not entertained by a closely contested match that could go either way? I’m not trying to be nasty or personal when I say it sounds like you should take 8 months away from football/Leicester and see how you feel at the start of next season. I want Leicester to win but I can be entertained and even enjoy matches where we don’t win. On a more general “fan” note I cannot understand why there is not much more booing and aggression aimed at Rudkin and Top. The fans are booing the players, they are wanting our 5th manager in a little over a season but are not aiming their annoyance at the people who have really dragged us down and who are keeping us down. Rudkin was at the match and I heard a couple of chants aimed at him but even those were a tenth of the volume of the chants aimed at Cifuentes.

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      4. I’m sorry but being able to ‘switch off’ and just not watch when things are going badly is the very definition of a plastic, fair weather fan. I watch because I have for over 30 years and because I always will. But I can’t be happy watching us defend for our lives (and not even succeed at that) and create nothing. And I’ve never met a fan of any team who can until now! The more you say, the more I suspect you’re fishing / trolling but I’ll continue to bite because you’re being polite.

        We definitely agree about the Top & Ruskin thing though. Ultimately this is their fault and I’m annoyed that more of the fan base don’t seem that angry at them. But these players are over-paid wastes of space for the most part so they deserve all they get too. And I never criticised Marti – I don’t think anyone could do any better. But I don’t have to be happy about that fact…

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      5. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
        jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

        I can add 20 years to your 30, so I have plenty of practice of finding entertainment amidst the dross. When you’ve watched a Frank McClintock managed Leicester team then even Levein isn’t that bad 😉 I admit that I do find entertainment in good defence, even our outlier title year was basically good defence and a couple of generational attacking talents. I’ve accepted that we have no attack (great wingers who are not going to score many, so need a striker or good AM) until at best January or more likely the summer (or beyond), so I accept that our points are coming from sound defence and team effort . Complaining about inconsistent players being inconsistent or below average players being below average is useless so I give Luke Thomas, Okoli, mavadidi some leeway as they perform better than VK, Faes or Ayew. I want the overpaid out – including Vestergaard who is doing okay for us this season and Winks who is an arsehole and I want youngsters to be given a shot and new players in January. Most of all I want Cifuentes to be left in place, not because he is great, but because another change of manager will just put us back another season and no-one we get in will be able to get a tune out of the majority of the shit we have. Now is the time to rebuild but to do that Vesty, Winks, Ayew, Soumaré, Vk, skipp, reid, Daka and all their ilk need to be away from the club in January. Then we can see over 6 months what Cifuentes and the youngsters have to offer us.

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      6. We basically agree about everything. You’ve just managed to make your peace with it – and well done for that!

        But I just cannot bring myself to be “happy” watching players earning 4 or 5 times as much as their opposite numbers being utterly outplayed – consistently, not just now and again. I don’t think he should go, but I’m also starting to get very fed up of Cifuentes talking about how much he likes young players and then still picking all those who have just let us down over and over again. Winks, Soumare, Daka, Skipp and Faes earn more between them than the entire Middlesbrough squad. Just Winks, Soumare and Daka earn more than the entire Blackburn squad. However much “effort” they put in, I can’t accept them being made to look average by teams like that. It either means they aren’t actually putting the effort in or – which is more likely – it just further reinforces how catastrophically we have been mis-managed. Which then just makes me MORE angry. And makes me wonder how it’s supposed to get better when the same people who have allowed this to happen are still in charge…

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      7. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
        jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

        This I can agree 100% with. Unfortunately those players needed to be sold in May, they weren’t, it was again the fault of Rudkin and company. Cifuentes would be sacked if he permanently dropped Winks, Vestergaard, Faes, Soumaré, Skipp, Reid, Daka, Ayew and the other overpaid failures. We have some good kids but we don’t have enough to win games (I’d be happy to take the losses) and neither the ownership nor the majority of the fanbase would accept the fallout. We have to bodge through to January and hope that Top fires Rudkin and co immediately, replaces them quickly and gets a plan in place to renew our squad so that we can enjoy the end of the season more than we will otherwise. What are the chances of that?

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    2. Whilst i wouldn’t go as far as describing it as an entertaining match, I do see your point. We didn’t play great, but we played as a team and played like a bunch of players who wanted to win – the biggest criticism of the team over the last season or so has been the indifference, the lack of care, the lack of pride – this game, despite what our author contends, the players gave everything.

      unfortunately, there are, right now, as you say, too many fans who expect us to be winning and playing well and going ‘straight back up’ – and yet, at the same time, lamenting how terrible our squad is. Our fans have to come down to earth and realise this is the end of a cycle, we need to be patient, that it’s ok, to no be in the PL right now.

      For far too long now our fans, including those who write this blog (and it’s still just about keeping it’s head above turning into a FT spin off) seem to be actively looking for things to complain about, to avoid anything remotely positive. And here – even looking for things that aren’t there, viz“In the dying throes of the game we had players walking, not running to get to their man or the ball.” – no, we had players who had defended and ran and even huffed and puffed to try to create something, who had given everything for 90 minutes. Unlike many games, blackburn, for example, they have given up – against Boro, they didn’t concede through a lack of effort, but because they had nothing left to give.

      I admire your positivity, tempered with a degree of realism. And find the attitude of the ‘cifuentes out’ and ‘carranza is shit’ (the guy has had barely 300 minutes of english football!) far harder to take seriously than a fan who genuinely appreciates when we’ve been in a game, regardless of the outcome.

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      1. I fully agree that it is entitled to turn up and expect to win, just because “Leicester won the Premier League not so long ago”. Personally, I think that mentality is more prevalent amongst the squad than the fans, but that’s just my opinion. I do not agree that it’s entitled to expect – especially at home – a squad which cost close to 100 MILLION POUNDS and which is earning wages which wouldn’t be out of place in the Premier League (despite all the outgoings in the summer, our wage bill is still 46 million per year – Bournemouth and Brentford’s are about 56 for example) to maybe create some chances and not have to try (and fail) to hang on against 10 men.

        This isn’t the end of a cycle, it’s the culmination of years of catastrophic mismanagement at every level of the club. For example, did you know that Winks, Soumare (SOUMARE!!!) and Daka (DAKA!!!), Skipp and Wout Faes earn more between them than the entire Middlesbrough squad? That is not the players’ faults, but you can’t tell me it’s unreasonable to expect them to at least be able to create and score a goal or two as a collective at this level?

        Marti could make his life a lot easier by just dropping the lot of them and picking the kids. The fans would immediately be off his back and results and performances could hardly get much worse. I will “back the lads” when they’re being outplayed and outfought by teams like Millwall, Blackburn and Hull when “the lads” wearing the shirt aren’t earning 5 or 6 times as much as their opposite numbers. And I am 100% certain that the vast majority of fans feel the same way.

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      2. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
        jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

        It seems to me that you have the strange belief that salary or transfer cost equals skill and quality. That surprises me when you saw the price and salary of the Leicester team that won the prem title. The quicker you realise that the 2 facts are not linked the better your life will be. We have a lot of poor players (whatever they cost or are paid) and they are being beaten by better teams of players. At least during this game they tried hard, which is more than can be said of many occasions over the last 5 years.

        You sound like a good Leicester supporter but we can disagree about how many of the fans complaining about Cifuentes would react if he dropped Winks and Vestergaard, played the kids and we continued to lose. Many of these fans seem to have a false understanding of how much and quickly a manager can change results. Nothing is changing for us until we sell those players and get in decent replacements and even that won’t be enough if Top and Rudkin continue to run the club as they have since Vichai died. They are the root of the problem.

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      3. Chris -I’m not going to discuss any of these references to salary – we simply have no idea what these players are on. And if they are on PL wages that’s because we signed them in the PL, and some at a time when we were playing or chasing european football – you can’t get players with european experience for EFL salaries.

        There is a lot to be said for “dropping the lot of them and picking the kids.” – but realistically that can’t and won’t happen, i replied to another post here that the switch to a majority academy squad will take time – dropping every experienced player is a fast track to losing the dressing room; also, yes, performances and results could get far worse! If Monga is the highlight player in the academy he’s yet to show that he is a top EFL level player, he’s been ok, great on occasions, but also poor at times – the idea of 11 players at that stage of their career is terrifying and more likely to damage those players selected – not to mention the massive pressure on young players (expectations, again!) and the idea that you’re keeping experienced players out of the squad….

        It is the end of a cycle – next season we’ll lose most of the last of the players who were relegated and on these apparently colossal salaries, we’ll be beyond the three year period with the big PSR debts; there will soon be the start of a new cycle, free of PSR restrictions, and full of the products of our great academy. Right now, we just have to tough it out.

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      4. But the people responsible for this supposed great new cycle are the same ones responsible for this slow motion car crash we’ve been watching for the last 4 years. What makes you think they’ll do any better? And my point is exactly the one you make – these players were supposedly good enough for the Premier League… Says everything about our ability to identify players or judge how much they are worth… Which is why I say this isn’t a cycle ending, it’s how our club is run.

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      5. Jovial – personally, I think it’s very naive of you to think the two things are NOT linked. Yes, in a one-off game anyone can beat anyone (otherwise cup upsets wouldn’t happen). But generally, your wage bill and transfer spend dictates roughly where you finish in the modern game unfortunately.

        There are exceptions where a club under or over-performs consistently relevant to their budget – us when we won the league as you mention and then… us when we got relegated. And us now. Notice the common thread…? The only other example recently is Man U (and Spurs last season although that now looks like a blip) and everyone is well aware that Man U is a car crash of a club. Also sounds familiar… MAYBE the Championship is an exception, but it hasn’t been for the last 3 or 4 years – although maybe this season is different. That still doesn’t mean we have to accept these performances (on a consistent basis) from these players.

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  2. noisilystrangerfef58960dd Avatar
    noisilystrangerfef58960dd

    sadly I think the anger is turning to apathy,the football is dire totally agree with your report.Marti seems to have run out of ideas,dropping Mavididi was stupid,apart from two good crosses from Luke Thomas so little threat from the left.Unfortunately when your starting line up only has one player with genuine pace in Fatawu it felt inevitable.I feel we have to persist with Mavididi and Daka as well as Fatawu because something is likely to happen with those three.Nelson should have been in from the start.Skipp again another slow player that offers so little but at least he tracks back unlike Soumare.Personally I’d rather play Faes than Okoli,his distribution and bringing the ball out helps start attacks,Vestergaard looks calm and as though he doesn’t make many mistakes but he slipped for a big chance and Gudjohnsson found it easy to stand off him and score both goals for Blackburn.At least he tries to move the ball quicker.We are dreadful on the counter we must have the fewest fast breaks and our slow football is the reason we create so little

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    1. jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334 Avatar
      jovialunabashedly72a7bc2334

      A lot of what you say is spot on but you are contradicting yourself. Cifuentes doesn’t have options so why blame him. Mavadidi has played plenty of minutes and done little with no results this year. He IS much better than Ayew and I’d play him everytime over Ayew but he isn’t going to change the result. And to state that Daka should be starting just shows what a mess Cifuentes has inherited. The guy has been here years and has hardly scored. He has a decent heart but his first touch is like a brick wall and his football brain is like soumarés. Skipp is useless but so is Soumaré, Ricardo can’t play 3 times a month, let alone twice a week and Hamza has developed Winks syndrome. We only have James and Ramsey (injured) who are decent in midfield.

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        Mavididi is a confidence player he has some pace,physicality and trickery which alone make him stand out in this squad.He is like most wingers,inconsistent but he could have scored twice against Blackburn but didn’t,one miraculous save from their keeper but his overall game was good.He was only on the pitch about 15 minutes and managed to get their player sent off but Ayew apart from winning free kicks like Carranza offers almost nothing.They don’t get shots in they aren’t creating.Yes Daka can be a car crash but he has come closer to scoring than Carranza and his pressing creates problems that the likes of Fatawu and Mavididi can pounce on.We are less passive when we play those three.I don’t rate Soumare or Skipp personally I would try Faes there he is better at everything eg passing,tackling,heading,bring the ball out and is quicker.We have to try something different.I would try Souttar upfront when fit Brendan Rodgers toyed with the idea in the premier league

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        Don’t get me wrong, I like Mavadidi, but he has played most matches this season and he hasn’t scored nor assisted. That is unacceptable. Of course he is better than Ayew or Reid but we may as well be giving Monga the minutes and experience, in fact winger is an area of strength in our younger squads. Ayew should NEVER be seen on the wing (or on the pitch unless as a late sub). Mavadidi should’ve scored, the fact he didn’t hurts your argument, he’s played about 500 minutes in the championship this season with 0 goals or assists, and it’s not that he plays in other players through choice.

        Daka has had more than his fair share of chances. He’s played about 6000 minutes for us and scored 23 goals – 6 of them were in Europe. Yes he stretches the pitch a little but he has no touch and no skill. We may as well play a fast 15 year old! Carranza has played 300 minutes and deserves time to adjust and show us how bad he is. We should be trying Evans up front.

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  3. noisilystrangerfef58960dd Avatar
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    sadly I think the anger is turning to apathy,the football is dire totally agree with your report.Marti seems to have run out of ideas,dropping Mavididi was stupid,apart from two good crosses from Luke Thomas so little threat from the left.Unfortunately when your starting line up only has one player with genuine pace in Fatawu it felt inevitable.I feel we have to persist with Mavididi and Daka as well as Fatawu because something is likely to happen with those three.Nelson should have been in from the start.Skipp again another slow player that offers so little but at least he tracks back unlike Soumare.Personally I’d rather play Faes than Okoli,his distribution and bringing the ball out helps start attacks,Vestergaard looks calm and as though he doesn’t make many mistakes but he slipped for a big chance and Gudjohnsson found it easy to stand off him and score both goals for Blackburn.At least he tries to move the ball quicker.We are dreadful on the counter we must have the fewest fast breaks and our slow football is the reason we create so little

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  4. There is a lot to be said for “dropping the lot of them and picking the kids.” – but realistically that can’t and won’t happen, i replied to another post here that the switch to a majority academy squad will take time – dropping every experienced player is a fast track to losing the dressing room; also, yes, performances and results could get far worse! 

    Ben Nelson’s performance v Boro really undermines this argument. He didn’t make any huge errors but even if he had , it would have been good experience. If Faes for instance, makes an error it’s all downside….

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  5. MR DENNIS WALTON Avatar
    MR DENNIS WALTON

    Please allow me to add my views. I have been supporting/following Leicester City longer than most. I suppose it was my destiny as I was born April 30th 1949 which was the day Leicester played their first FA Cup final – against Wolves and we lost 3 1. But I didn’t become a supporter until 12 years later; Leicester’s second final against Tottenham – again a loss, 2 0. Everyone around me was a Spurs fan so I supported the underdog. Despite losing, I was proud of them and have followed them ever since. As in all things in life, there have been peaks and troughs. No doubt about it, this is a trough!

    I had high hopes for this season and wish the management had retained Ruud. Then I feel we would have seen more youngsters in the side. They need experience and cannot get it unless they are played. I would have expected us to struggle somewhat at first but to improve as the youngsters gained experience. Martin is in my opinion, being slow to realise what we all know. That is that though the players he consistently picks are the best players technically and physically at this stage, they are mentally poor. They are shell-shocked after so many humiliating results and are at rock bottom confidence levels. This shows, as whilst on terms or ahead, they can look quite good bur as soon as they are behind they become shells of what they should be. The infusion of new blood in the likes of Fatawu (returning after a long absence) James and Ramsey has been good for them. With Ramsey out again, I hate seeing James played out of position to cover for him. Monday says he feels number 10 is his best role so why not try him there?

    Martin has said that such a large squad makes it difficult to use youngsters. Wrong though process. He should say that having so many talented youngsters makes it difficult to keep selecting senior players that are under performing. There needs to be a balance but I think he could regularly give 4 younger players at a time more game time. On Mavididi, he is one of those that needs a rest

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    1. Slightly younger but became a fan at the same time – my brother followed Spurs so I, naturally, picked The Foxes in the ‘61 Final.
      A lot of considered and well argued points on this thread and all I’d say is that the manager needs time – this ship is going to take a while to turn.

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